Attach of the Clones? - Conspiracy-Forums

Blue Wulf · 04-22-2008, 09:38 PM

I may not believe in God but I believe that to be able to clone any animal is just wrong. People are born then they die that's just the way of life. Our ancestors have adaptied to having lost (and gained) different and interesting creatures, why can't we, there's no need to clone.

Moxxnixx · 04-25-2008, 08:40 PM

I disagree.
I think the method used to create life is irrelevant and shouldn't be used to determine it's worth.
What defines a person is their experiences through life, not where their genetic make up originated.

Our ancestors didn't have cures for many diseases either, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't.

James Lewitzke · 04-28-2008, 09:59 PM

I think it depends on the situation, what would be the reason behind the clone? If cloning provided additional organs for dying people with cancer, tumors, etc. would you deny them the chance to live? Could you live with that on your consciousness?

This does provide an interesting perspective on the human side though, I think I'll write a blog post about it in the near future

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**Conspirasist** · 05-15-2008, 09:03 PM

I wouldnt mind cloning of human organs but not the whole human.
Something is just to unsettling about it.

I had heard but it's only a rumor - that scientists were going to
clone humans but they would only have the lower brain stem
cloned in the body to keep it alive. They weren't going to let it
grow the whole brain. This way they could harvest the organs as needed.

James Lewitzke · 05-15-2008, 09:25 PM

I agree, cloning body parts would be a good thing

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Think about all the people that have cancer, or tumors, or other medical problems that require an organ transplant.

Not to mention all the people who look for them and wait months, soemtimes years for proper organ donations but never get them...

bl1984 · 05-22-2008, 12:35 PM

I too agree that cloning body parts would be a good thing. However, I don't think scientists, government, or geneticists in general would stop stop at just cloning body parts. Some fanatic with that information would want to play god. How could this be policed?

**Barcs** · 05-22-2008, 05:13 PM

^Yeah I gotta agree completely. Who's to stop some crazy mad scientist from making an army of clones?

Moxxnixx · 05-22-2008, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barcs

^Yeah I gotta agree completely. Who's to stop some crazy mad scientist from making an army of clones?

That's funny.

But seriously, unless they can genetically enhance them, what's the difference between an army of clones or an army of real people???

Also, unless they can accelerate their growth, creating army of clones would take a really long time.

James Lewitzke · 05-22-2008, 06:45 PM

That just gave me a great idea

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Now I just need the Billions in funding it takes to launch a secret underground cloning facility

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**Barcs** · 05-22-2008, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moxxnixx

That's funny.

But seriously, unless they can genetically enhance them, what's the difference between an army of clones or an army of real people???

Also, unless they can accelerate their growth, creating army of clones would take a really long time.

Haha yeah. I didn't think of that! I guess they could do something to their brains to make them more submissive to orders, or simply brainwash them from birth. It would take a while though!

CrazyPaul · 06-09-2008, 09:14 PM

How is cloning worse than cross-breeding?

Cross-breeding has given us animals that can't survive without humans. Before getting the "desired result" cross-breeding creates many disfigured, or damaged animals. Once that result is found, animals are effectively cloned due to the amount of inbreeding used to maintain those traits. This has other negative side-effects.
Look at the medical problems that "pure bred" dogs have compared to their mongrel counterparts.

At least cloning could reduce or eliminate inbreeding.

04-22-2008, 09:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Blue Wulf Conspiracy Buff Location: Fox Point Posts: 37 Rep:	Attach of the Clones? I may not believe in God but I believe that to be able to clone any animal is just wrong. People are born then they die that's just the way of life. Our ancestors have adaptied to having lost (and gained) different and interesting creatures, why can't we, there's no need to clone.

04-28-2008, 09:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
James Lewitzke Administrator Recent Blog Post: The Earth is Flat! Name: James Posts: 312 Rep:	I think it depends on the situation, what would be the reason behind the clone? If cloning provided additional organs for dying people with cancer, tumors, etc. would you deny them the chance to live? Could you live with that on your consciousness? This does provide an interesting perspective on the human side though, I think I'll write a blog post about it in the near future . __________________ Conspiracy-Forums Rules Lightningshock.com - My Blog

05-15-2008, 09:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
James Lewitzke Administrator Recent Blog Post: The Earth is Flat! Name: James Posts: 312 Rep:	I agree, cloning body parts would be a good thing . Think about all the people that have cancer, or tumors, or other medical problems that require an organ transplant. Not to mention all the people who look for them and wait months, soemtimes years for proper organ donations but never get them... __________________ Conspiracy-Forums Rules Lightningshock.com - My Blog

05-22-2008, 06:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
James Lewitzke Administrator Recent Blog Post: The Earth is Flat! Name: James Posts: 312 Rep:	That just gave me a great idea . Now I just need the Billions in funding it takes to launch a secret underground cloning facility . __________________ Conspiracy-Forums Rules Lightningshock.com - My Blog

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04-25-2008, 08:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Moxxnixx Conspiracy Lurker Location: Florida, USA Name: Lance Posts: 17 Rep:	I disagree. I think the method used to create life is irrelevant and shouldn't be used to determine it's worth. What defines a person is their experiences through life, not where their genetic make up originated. Our ancestors didn't have cures for many diseases either, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't.

05-15-2008, 09:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Conspirasist Conspiracy Expert Posts: 273 Rep:	I wouldnt mind cloning of human organs but not the whole human. Something is just to unsettling about it. I had heard but it's only a rumor - that scientists were going to clone humans but they would only have the lower brain stem cloned in the body to keep it alive. They weren't going to let it grow the whole brain. This way they could harvest the organs as needed.

05-22-2008, 12:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
bl1984 Conspiracy Lurker Posts: 14 Rep:	I too agree that cloning body parts would be a good thing. However, I don't think scientists, government, or geneticists in general would stop stop at just cloning body parts. Some fanatic with that information would want to play god. How could this be policed?

05-22-2008, 05:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Barcs Conspiracy Nut Location: NJ Name: Bill Posts: 109 Rep:	^Yeah I gotta agree completely. Who's to stop some crazy mad scientist from making an army of clones?

06-09-2008, 09:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
CrazyPaul Conspiracy Buff Location: California Name: Paul Davis Posts: 26 Rep:	How is cloning worse than cross-breeding? Cross-breeding has given us animals that can't survive without humans. Before getting the "desired result" cross-breeding creates many disfigured, or damaged animals. Once that result is found, animals are effectively cloned due to the amount of inbreeding used to maintain those traits. This has other negative side-effects. Look at the medical problems that "pure bred" dogs have compared to their mongrel counterparts. At least cloning could reduce or eliminate inbreeding.