Wrap Your Head Around This

[dickeazy]

Gravitational Perpetual Motion Experiment


As we all know, perpetual motion is scientifically impossible, and claims of such devices/activities are a clear sign of bad science. No device (or natural phenomenon) can expend energy without draining a power source, and certainly cannot operate without any power source at all.

I would propose this hypothetical experiment: An object dropped into a tunnel cut completely through the Earth (providing we could actually do this) would be accelerated to the center by gravity, then, decelerated as it approached the other end; only to be accelerated down again, over and over – endlessly. Even our most elementary physics states that it takes energy expenditure from a known power source to accelerate and decelerate objects, yet there is no power source in site here, let alone a draining one.

Gravity is an endless supply of a natural phenomenon, or rather an endless physical property of our earth. It is also present equally in force everywhere on the total surface of earth, meaning you will weigh exactly the same in China as you would at the polar opposite position in America. This condition would expel the theory that the object would eventually be stopped in the center of earth, as equal forces both accelerating and decelerating would prevail.

Despite detailed atomic theories and even having split the atom, science has never identified a gravitational power source.

This experiment describes an actively operating “mechanism” that never ends and never drains a power source – an impossible perpetual motion scenario, according to today’s physics.

What do you think? Agree or disagree?

[James Lewitzke]

Actually, I think its possible that everything we know about perpetual motion and gravity may be wrong. What if Newton's Theory of Gravity really doesn't work the way he describes it?

Plus there may be other laws that we do not understand, such as how exactly Gravity may be linked to energy and electromagnetism.

[dickeazy]

I agree, in a way, James. I do believe Newton was on the right track, only the technology of the day didn’t allow him to fully research (at least to his ability) the full properties of gravitation. I se this “constant energy source” as something that WILL, if properly mastered, be the center source of just such an impossibility like “perpetual motion”.

What I am exploring here with this hypothetical experiment is Newton’s gravitational constant, and perhaps the variables that may be unknown to us about this. The gravitational constant is perhaps the most difficult physical constant to measure. It appears in Isaac Newton’s Law of Universal Gravitation: Newton's law of universal gravitation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Newton went on to expand on his gravitation theories with something he called Shell Theorem. This explains more clearly what I am trying to convey with an experiment like the hypothetical tunnel through earth/perpetual motion theory. His Shell Theorem is here: Shell theorem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

In regards to “perpetual motion”, the laws discovered by men like Newton, Einstein, and Cavendish have unfounded horizons yet to be discovered concerning new super-heavy synthesized elements which now exist, like Element 115, or Ununpentium: Ununpentium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. This element literally has its own gravity A field around it, in addition to the gravity B field that is native to all matter. This gravity A wave can be manipulated in much the same way as electromagnetic waves can be, opening doors to several things we always thought as “impossible” before its discovery.

So you're theory about the relationship between these two is quite accurate, Jim!

This element is also the basis for the propulsion unit that Bob Lazar spoke of in the reverse-engineered craft that scientists had down in S4, which worked from the manipulation of gravity waves.

[Dave~]

There are some external factors that can not be left out that would make this experiment not work, or maybe it would make a conclusion that Gravitational Perpetual Motion is still not possible.

If we could get a hole straight through the earth, and we could keep the object continually in the center of the hole (keeping with the rotation of the earth), it would still run into the problem of colliding with air molecules, in other words, friction. The only frictionless place, hypothetically, would be inside an absolute vacuum, so that would have to be provided so that the object would not continually collide with air molecules thus slowing it down on each "orbit" (from one end of the tube to the other). Friction alone would slow it down each time so that sooner or later, the object would stop in the middle.

Of course, there is the assumption that the speed built up at one end of the tube to the middle is not sufficient enough to get the object to break the gravitational field at the other end and leave the atmosphere (slingshot effect).

Not to hijack the thread, but it's along the same lines, why can't a pump running off the natural gas and oil that it's pumping out of a pocket keep running until that pocket is devoid of all the natural gas and oil?